So far to me, the Oni looks to be a tier 1 figure. It's a good deal better than the rest of the figs shown so far. It has great speed and strike range and as worded can move up and cone/bolt then go gaseous to minimize counter attacks before doing it again. I will definatly be picking up 4 of them.

bshugg said:
So far to me, the Oni looks to be a tier 1 figure. It's a good deal better than the rest of the figs shown so far. It has great speed and strike range and as worded can move up and cone/bolt then go gaseous to minimize counter attacks before doing it again. I will definatly be picking up 4 of them.

But what really makes the oni powerful is that it is in the borderlands faction and can benefit from the Eternal Blade.

So far borderlands has about 8 of the top 10 figures I've seen stats for. That doesn't bode well. I'm hoping that when they errata DOD1 they might make some faction tweaks. At least add Good/evil to some more figs.

I’ve cleaned up the stats we have so far and posted them in a consolidated post af the top of the thread. As the remaining stats come in, I’ll keep updating that post. Thanks again to everyone who’s posted so far!

What's up with the Dragons? No one has seen their stats? Has anyone pulled a dragon? Thanks,

Rafa.

Looking at the 1st post with the stats, the Dwarf Warlord is listed as missing. Don't we have the stats for him from the rulebook?

RafaPolit said:
What's up with the Dragons? No one has seen their stats? Has anyone pulled a dragon? Thanks,

Rafa.

52 points

Level 8?
AC 24
DEF 20?
Speed F8
HP 85

Basic attack: +?? vs AC, 10 Damage + 10 fire
Breath weapon: +11 vs DEF (Ref), 25 fire damage. RECHARGE when first bloodied.

Dragon
Flight, Resist 5 fire

Champion 2
- Use when a critical hit is rolled: +20 damage
- ??

Thanks a lot Kithmaker!

Did you find it a reasonably good skirmish piece? How about the sculpt?

Thanks again!
Rafa.

Decent in skirmish, but what do I know? Twice it failed to do anything with its breath weapon (because I rolled 1s and 2s). It went nicely with the Shade Knight, who can turn a hit into a critical (then add 20 damage from the dragon).

I got to see a stack of cards when I picked Vrecknidj up from the airport including the silver.

Silver was 63 I believe and red in the 50's. Had a fairly low attack for their cost and mid range AC and HP. (23 ac 21 def on silver if I remember). Both had weak breathweapons. Silver was +8 for 40 cold with 0 on a miss. Recharge on bloody.

It was a commander with 2 commander effects, one giving some boon to allies that wasn't very noticable and the other granting a VP boost under a condition.

Kind of nice that all the dragons have some sort of treasure hording mechanic around the Victory areas.

I wasn't very impressed with its stats over all.

The Vrock was extremely nuts though for its cost. Especially since it can have 3 attacks every round and can get boosted by the Eternal blade allowing it to spit out 75 damage a round at +17/+17/+17

From 122 and 83 points to 63 and ~50? Wow... not so much kings of the battlefield anymore.

Thanks for sharing the stats!

I'm interested in the Champion of Baphomet. He looks like he could be a terror.

TJ

First I will fill in some blanks and correct an error that I saw on the list on the first page.

Warforged Infiltrator
Level: 9
AC: 24
Def: 23
Speed: 6
HP: 55

Shade Knight not Shadow Knight

Vrock

Borderlands, Wild; 62 points; Dungeons of Dread 20/60 (Rare)

Level: 13
AC: 27
DEF: 25
Speed: F8
HP: 80

Attack Actions

Claw: +17 vs. AC: 20 damage

Bird of Prey (adjacent only, provokes opportunity attacks) 3 attacs against the same target, +15 vs. AC: 15 damage each

Stunning Screech: (burst 3) +15 vs DEF (Fort): Stunned

Abilities

Evil • Demon
Flight
Reach 2

Special Powers

Mobile Melee Attack: Can shift immediately after making a attack.
Spores of Madness (burst 2) Immediate, when first Bloodied: +15 vs DEF (Will): Confused

Defiant Rake
Civilization,Underdark; 15 points; Dungeons of Dread 43/60 (Uncommon)

Level: 5
AC: 19
DEF: 16
Speed: 6
HP: 40

Attack Actions
Rapier: +10 vs AC; 10 Damage
Hand Crossbow: (range 10) +12 vs AC; 10 Damage

Abilities
Human • Rogue
+4 DEF (Ref)
Sneak Attack 10: +10 Damage whenever this creature has combat advantage against target.

Special Powers
Wicked Dodge: When an attack roll against this creature is a natural 9 or below, the attack automatically misses. You can choose to have the attack rerolled against a different target within the attacker's reach.

Skeletal Tomb Guardian
Underdark; 69 points; Dungeons of Dread 52/60 (Rare)

Level: 10
AC: 20
DEF: 24
Speed: 8
HP: 110

Attack Actions
Scimitar: +12 vs AC; 25 Damage; on miss, reroll once
Cascade of Steel: +14 vs AC; 25 Damage AND immediately make this attack again (maximum 4 per turn)

Abilities
Undead • Skeleton
Immun Poison
Vulnerable 5 Radiant

Special Powers
Multiple Threats: All enemies adjacent to this creature grant combat advantageto attackers.

Wandering Monster: Sets up in a random victory area.

Giant Centipede
Underdark, Wild; 9 points; Dungeons of Dread 56/60 (Common)

Level: 4
AC: 19
DEF: 15
Speed: 4
HP: 35

Attack Actions
Bite: +9 vs AC; 15 Damage

Abilities
Beast
Defensive Mobility: +5 AC against opportunity attacks while moving.

Special Powers
Scuttle +4: +4 Speed if every square this creature moves into is adjacent to a wall.

Wriggle 3: Before attacking on its turn, this creature must move at least 3 squares.

bshugg said:
So far borderlands has about 8 of the top 10 figures I've seen stats for. That doesn't bode well. I'm hoping that when they errata DOD1 they might make some faction tweaks. At least add Good/evil to some more figs.

I think the blade and farmer lend more to borderlands strength then choice.

djtool said:

bshugg said:
So far borderlands has about 8 of the top 10 figures I've seen stats for. That doesn't bode well. I'm hoping that when they errata DOD1 they might make some faction tweaks. At least add Good/evil to some more figs.

I think the blade and farmer lend more to borderlands strength then choice.

I'm counting blade and farmer as 1 and 2 most powerful figs.

I would like to respectfully request the Names of the figs on the list get underlined when time is in abundance.

thank you for the work.

The problem with the EB is that it gets more powerful when more figures are released. When you give a figure his buff that can attack multiple figures, it gets scary. Another thing that imbalances things is giving it to figures with autodamage.

Thanks to Brig, added the Defiant Rake, {Vrock:dungeons_of_dread}, Skeletal Tomb Guardian, and Giant Centipede, and finished the missing bits for the Warforged Infiltrator.

I’ve also moved the stats off to a separate page in a more perusable and printable form than here on the forums.

The Eternal Blade's bonus damage no longer applies on a miss for auto-damage attacks. The Eternal Blade's save bonuses must now be used before the actual save is rolled. These two fixes (plus the defender fix and the new stats) have reduced my concern about the EB's balance greatly.

Brad, what is your Top 10 figure list?

It's more a kneejerk reaction back to the days when CE was so amazing in the first 4 sets. We are going to be rapidly getting more figs that on a month the whole balance may be changed. It's gonna be a fun metagame up until GenCon as we keep getting new releases smashing up the environment.

Pre Dung of Dread it would be something like this.

1. EB
2. Farmer
3. Drider
4. Astral Stalker
Shrieking harpy
Merchant Guard
Werewolf Champ
Capri Copper
Rot Scarab Swarm
Nightmare

Basically 7 out of 10 with the top 4 all being borderlands.

My top 4 favorite picks so far from Dung are:
Oni
Death Knight
Vrock
Sellsword

Which are all borderlands as well. Not sure where things would settle in until we have seen the whole set.